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We're back!  After a six-month hiatus, the Food Business Success podcast is returning with an exciting announcement: Stephanie Robbins is stepping in as the new podcast host, along with being the new president, chief go-to-market officer, and business partner with Sari. In this episode, Sari and Stephanie sit down to discuss navigating entrepreneurial burnout, the power of realigning your vision, and what to expect from the newly relaunched Launch & Grow program, now updated for 2026! 

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Sari

Welcome to your food business success. This podcast is for early stage entrepreneurs in the packaged food industry ready to finally turn that delicious idea into reality. I'm your host, Sari Kimball. I have guided hundreds of food brand founders to success as an industry expert and business coach. And it's gotta be fun. In this podcast, I share with you mindset tools to become a true entrepreneur and run your business like a boss. Interviews with industry experts to help you understand the business you are actually in and food founder journey so you can learn what worked and didn't work and not feel so alone in your own journey. Now let's jump in. We are back, back, baby, and better than ever, I am so excited to welcome you back to the podcast, this new season of the podcast, to welcome Stephanie Robbins to the podcast and to food business success. We're gonna get into a little bit about what Stephanie's gonna be doing and talking about the future of food business success. All right, welcome everybody to the podcast. We are back, back, baby, and better than ever, I am so excited to welcome you back to the podcast and to welcome a very special guest and more than just a guest, someone you're gonna be hearing from and seeing a lot. And so I'm very excited for this uh new uh phase of the podcast, this new season of the podcast, to welcome Stephanie Robbins to the podcast and to food business success. So, hi Stephanie.

Stephanie

Hey, it's so great to be here. I'm so excited.

Sari

Yes. So we're gonna get into a little bit about what Stephanie is gonna be doing and talking about the future of food business success and the podcast. But uh I want to share with you that Stephanie Robbins joined Food Business Success back in January. And she is our president and go-to-market uh chief go-to-market officer, and really excited that she wants to bring the podcast back. You guys know it's been six months. I I did a last episode at the end of 2025 and was rolling it down and shared with you a little bit about my journey and needing to take some time and and realign. And we're really excited. I'm excited that you're bringing the podcast back, Stephanie. I am too. I love this podcast.

Stephanie

I think it's been so amazing the information, the practical advice, the depth of expert. And I'm so excited to be part of it and to be able to continue the legacy of that.

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Yeah.

Sari

So we thought about this podcast as like the kick the kickoff of the next, the next season, the next life cycle of business success. And I'd love to share a little bit about your background and who you are and where we're taking the program. But secondly, we talked about how important like sharing the message about as an entrepreneur, real like taking time to realign your business, to realign yourself, to evaluate it and to be willing to evolve it and to change it. And how you started, you know, your business, like I started five years ago, or more than that, seven years ago, um, how you started then, like the business needs to change and evolve with you as you grow and change. And so I think our second, you know, purpose of this uh welcome back podcast is to um, you know, share that message and share a little bit about uh what I did to get back into alignment and to uh bring in a wonderful partner uh in the business. So sound good?

Stephanie

I love that. I love the idea of being able to share the food business success journey for all the founders in our community to be able to see in real time how it's gonna unfold, how this change, this pivot, this growth, this whole new chapter is going to to to come around. And how in the process, both you and I are creating the lives we want to live, which is so important and so dear to me. One of the the reasons I wanted to work with you, of course, was because so much of what you've built is around helping people actually create the life they want to live. And that that to me is inspiring.

Sari

Yes, creating a business you love and that loves you back. And yeah, when you feel out of alignment with that, so maybe we I'll just go and kind of share the story, like go back and do the time machine here, go back in time. But you know, last fall I came back from my travels and I really thought, like, okay, I'm gonna get going. Like, I've taken enough time, let's go. And I just could not, I just didn't want to. I didn't have the energy for it. I was starting to resent my business, and it sucks to wake up every day, and you know, not maybe not every day, but many days and say, I don't want to do this, you know. None of us get start start businesses because we want to wake up feeling that way, right? Usually we leave our job, our J-O-B, because we're feeling that way. But the reality is that uh as we design our businesses, um, that how I did it seven years ago and five years ago when I started the podcast, it was all me. I was wearing all the hats. And I outsourced a little bit here and a little bit there, but it was still me like running the marketing show, doing all the content, you know, scheduling podcast hosts, editing the videos, all the things. And I just reached a point where I was like, I can't do this by myself anymore. And I got to a place where I was like, it either is gonna go away, I need to just, you know, be grateful for it and call it complete and close that chapter of my life, or I need to call in somebody that can help support and is in alignment with uh with me and the the vision and sees the potential. And and that's I got really, really clear. I think if I was gonna say to anyone who's maybe feeling a little entrepreneurial burnout or wondering, like, can I keep doing this? Or maybe feeling some resentment, is I worked with a coach, I got really clear on what needed to shift. What did I want to keep doing? What was my zone of genius? And where were the places in my business that I just was feeling drudgery? I was feeling exhaustion, I was like not excited, right? And that all comes across. Like if I'm gonna do a social media post or a podcast, if I'm in resentment and burnout, like it's not gonna be worth the energy, right? Because you guys are gonna be like, ew, scroll past that, right? And so I did the work, uh, started putting out the call within my networks, uh looking for a partner. And I was very clear, it was like, it's gotta look like this or it's nothing, right? And I was willing, I like release the attachment. And we got connected through a mutual friend who I I've known since I pretty much started Food Business Success, and he's been a real champion in my life. And uh yeah, shout out to well, just shout out to Waven Dean. And he said, I know the I got the perfect person. I just met her. And uh we started talking and having conversations and started building that trust and relationship. And um, so much of it was me being willing to be honest about like, here's what I'm willing to do, and here's what I'm not. And if you're a fit to fill in the gaps, right, then then we can keep moving moving forward. And um, I'm really proud of myself for being willing to do that because there's so much ego that can get wrapped up into like it's my face and I gotta keep this up and I can't let the people down. And right, but nobody wants me showing up trying to coach you as entrepreneurs if I'm hating my business. It's not gonna work out.

Stephanie

So and I just love your story of intention and coaching, like it's so important for everyone to know when we need to have a coach and how to put that intention out there. And the irony is I was doing the same thing on my end. I had sold a business, ironically, a business that wasn't in consumer package goods that I had purchased while I was getting my own snack food company up and running. And uh, it was a business I had been trying to sell it for about two years, and I was in that same spot of I didn't want to do it anymore. But you don't get to quit your own job when you own the company. But anyway, I had sold it about um, well, about a year ago, and I was putting my intention out there, not quite sure what I wanted to do. I was doing some fractional work, and that's fun enough, but it wasn't really feeding my soul. Love coaching, love teaching, love helping people get to where they want to go. And yeah, I met Wave and we sat on a panel together, and we happened to live in the same town, and we became instant friends and were talking, and then he looked at me, he got your email literally like the day before he and I met for coffee and and came to me and said, I have something you need to look at. And we and we talked and we looked. And it was, but it was so out there in the universe. I had just said, I'm not sure what I want. And and I'd been working with my coach as well, but I'm not quite sure what I want yet, and I'm open to something I haven't thought of, and and all of this came and it and it checks all my boxes of what I love to do, where I like to be, what I like to work on and help people with. So it was so if anyone if anyone has a great takeaway, like the takeaway from this, I think, is is is just put that intention out there. What is it you want to do? Where do you want to be? You know, and and then I always I I uh guest lecture at um and and in business school, and and one of the things I tell early founders is lean into your strengths and find good people for your weaknesses, right? So finding someone to come in and do the things you don't want to do, that doesn't mean you're not good at it. It doesn't mean that you can't do it. It just means why do you why do the things you don't want to do when you can find someone who can do the things you want to do? And then I also find partnership to be so um I love collaboration. I I do my best work when I can collaborate with people, when I can toss an idea out there and I can get ideas back. And that's that for me is always exciting. So I just I love that.

Sari

It gives me goosebumps. Like I remember Waven saying, like, I just met this woman and she's looking for an opportunity. And and I'd love for you to share a little bit about your background. I know you've shared in a couple social media posts and whatnot, but um, I mean, the beauty was is like, oh my gosh, this woman has 30 years of CBG experience doing working with big brands and also her own brand. And it's just like, oh, this fit just feels so aligned. It just is like, wow, it's it's a puzzle piece coming together. And uh, and I think some of it for me is um, you know, I've always been, I've never been one of those people that like loves group projects or anything because I'm always the one that like does more and takes responsibility, and then you got the slackers and all the things. So I think entrepreneurship has always appealed to me because I'm like, I get to make the decisions, it's all up to me, right? But seven years later, and on in you know, fast forward into my business, it's like it can all be up to me. And there is it's kind of deciding that to believe that there's a different way. It doesn't have to be the group project model where you know you're everybody gets yay, but only one person did the work. It can be a real collaborative, you know, filling in the gaps on our skill sets, allowing ourselves to be in our zone of genius, to actually evolve it and accelerate whatever endeavor you're doing, that um there is a version of partnership that is that way. And I think I finally got to a place of like, it's gotta be this way, but I don't have comp there's no room for compromise in this where I'm just like saying yes, even though I want to say no, or vice versa. So it's like both of us being very clear about what our who we are and what our true intentions are and how we want to show up.

Stephanie

I love that. And and in and in the world of just kind of like in the world of business planning, that's so important, right? We've got our goals, we've got them aligned. If we're not aligned, we work through to alignment, and that's always the better path, is is you know, there's the old saying, do you want to be married? Do you want to be right or do you want to be married? And it's like, well, I want to be married. I want to, I want to get to the right answer, an answer that works for everybody. And I have found I I also believe in just for more platitudes, I believe in the saying that the motivated group beats the lone genius every single time. And so when we can come together, and maybe you want to go left and I want to go right, and we're like, well, wait, let's look at this, and we're gonna work through what left looks like and what right looks like, we're gonna work through if there's other options, and then we get a path, and all of a sudden we're like, wow, this is even better. This is so much better than what I thought it was. And that to me, that to me is where magic happens. That to me excites me. That's where I get my goosebumps, like, oh, we have this, we came up with this.

Sari

And but yeah, so to answer, but yeah, tell us a little bit about your background.

Stephanie

Yeah, so I uh have been in consumer package goods for 30 years. I've been primarily in uh marketing strategy and innovation during that time with mostly fast-growing emerging brands. So everything from uh pre-revenue with my own brand up to about 100, 150 million with a brand. Well, we were owned by private equity, so we had 3 billion in backing, but we were only 150 million. Um, and everything in between, and I've actually I've actually worked in tech and um home-based, uh, not home-based, local-based businesses as well. So just having that wide variety of business and strategy and building and marketing and and thinking through the whole business plan process. Um, I I got I've got my MBA and I actually am still really good friends with a lot of my my fellow students and my cohort. And so we talk a lot and um and then uh and I have a uh another podcast that I do uh that just gets into the philosophy of how to make a great brand. So it's the things that I think about. Um and that will could put a link in for Thursday lunch. That's called Thursday Lunch. And and it's really about the philosophy around how to create great brands and what to think about when you're building a brand. And so these are the things I tend to think about. You know, I I am one of those geeky people who who loves to read certain business books, although if they're not good, I put them down very quickly. Um, that was the other cool thing is you and I have been reading a lot of the same books and getting excited by the same books. Um and I love that. And and so for me, I get very excited by um emerging brands, by I love the CPG industry, I love grocery and consumer goods, but I absolutely love that magic of coming up with an idea of doing something better than what's already on the market, whether it's a better product itself, whether it's sustainable, whether it's you know 1% for the planet, whatever that is, but it's better than what's already there. And then bringing that forward because not only do you create wealth for small people, which is amazing, instead of big brands, but you're also pushing forward a better system, a better food system, a better world, a better sustainability, all of the stuff that comes with this mission-driven concept that that these emerging brands have that are in their own way making changes in the whole industry. So the big companies have realized in the last 20 years how much share they're losing to the entrepreneurs. And so they're making changes. So they're really we tiny little emerging brands are actually affecting change. And then also a lot of times the emerging brands really become become the innovation for the big brand because you innovate, you can take chances, you can launch your brand, and then maybe you sell to them, or maybe you inspire products with them. And and and that inspiration then also grows a category, it elevates the whole system. So all that stuff, I know I I just geek out on all of it, uh, all that stuff just it excites me. It it's so fun to see, it's so fun to be a part of. And then, really quick, my original, my undergraduate degree was in teaching. I was gonna be a high school English teacher. And so all of these parts have come together by meeting Sari, by joining Food Business Success. Um because I've always loved teaching, I've always loved helping people find what they need to move their knowledge forward and and and get moving forward. And it's always excited me. So for me, I I just feel like this is right where I I belong. It's very exciting.

Sari

We share that. I was a middle school teacher for for a couple of years. So if I can teach uh seventh graders, we can teach adults how to start a baggage food business. And I love that we both share that passion for teaching for learning and for teaching. And I think that's what you want when you're working with people in to help you in your dream fulfillment, right? Is you want to go find people. Um, I think, you know, sometimes I meet um people who have started big brands, and um, and a lot of times people want to go mentor with a you know, somebody like a Justin, right? Or like some, you know, Ciet Foods or something like that. And the reality is not everybody, just because they did it, they don't know how to like break it down into the pieces and they don't always understand, like they're too far along. They don't understand like where you're at and all the little things, you know. I I have a uh client who was just asking me the other day. She's like, Do I need recall insurance? And do I need this and that? You know, because she's talking to a copacker that only works with giant brands. And it's like, no, no, no, we're not that's not, we're not at that level yet. And I think that's the wisdom and expertise we bring is like understanding the startup stage, you know, that that just an idea three up to 300, 500K is our sweet spot. And we don't need to, we're not the people necessarily that are gonna be like, I'm gonna help you go out, you know, exit to Coca-Cola. Like, but it's like finding the right experts and the right mentors at the right time in your business and um people who love to teach.

Stephanie

I think that's so important. I I talk to people a lot and they wanna write, they want to work with that ex-Coca-Cola person because they came from that blue chip company. And that's great. They probably did great work at Coca-Cola, but if they've never understood what it means to not have all the people that support, right? You don't have a data analysis, you got an analyst, you have to figure out that you don't you can't even afford the report. So, where do you get free data, right? Yeah, you don't you don't have uh uh slotting fees. So, how do you, if you want to go to retail, get into retail. You you don't have the you know the runway to go to retail, so what do you do instead? All of that, um, I don't like the term scrappy because it's overused, but truly all of that scrappy get to it, yeah, exactly.

Sari

Yeah, figure it out.

Stephanie

Yes, and and been there, I feel like like we've been there, and uh and then and and I mean I've built big national brands too. Uh so I I know that path, but it's that it's that initial part that is so I think so opaque if you haven't been in it. And if you've been in a blue chip brand, that's great. Uh, you know, no no disrespect to the people growing and building those huge blue chip brands. Getting into startup though is a really different mindset.

Sari

Yeah.

Stephanie

Yeah.

Sari

And we just I love that we love our people so much. So all of you listening, we love you so much, and we love that here you have these stuff. Delicious ideas, and you are considering entrepreneurship or you're wanting to grow. And and you and I really bring a nice marriage of um you have experience in big retail, um, like some of those big retail brands. You also have experience in your own food business and being on Amazon, the e-commerce, and in retail, and doing your own, which is not, you know, I don't, I never I started like a tiny little anyway. You can go back and listen to past episodes. There's a story in there, but um, I never really started my own brand. And so, but I have all the farmers market experience, the direct to consumer, and then some direct to consumer. So we overlap there, but you're gonna bring so much uh more to the program around retail um as well. And so it just we just bring even more to the program. I'd love to just touch on um how we're changing, like what we are updating right now, in case people are um wondering, you know, what's changing and what are we doing? So uh in 2019, I recorded the initial uh program, uh, which was originally called Food Business Success, but then we renamed it to Launch and Grow because we have other programs as well under the umbrella. So uh we have that initial program Launch and Grow. And I've added different things, I've updated parts of it, but when Stephanie came on, I said, listen, uh, we don't really have anything to sell. I don't feel like this is six years, seven years old. It doesn't even have AI in it. Like it's just me talking to the camera and it needs to be updated, right? And that was actually one of our areas that we initially were like, I think it was a good test for us to say, are we gonna stay in our integrity of what uh, you know, this true partnership, right? And because it was like, well, okay, Sari, you can go re-record everything. And I was like, uh-uh, no, no, no. I'm not, I did not sign up for that, right? That's why we're here. That's why we have a partner. And ultimately us having that difficult, challenging conversation of saying, like, I don't want to spend hours and hours creating new content, even with AI, and even with, you know, you know, seven years later, I know so much more and I can speak about it. But we're also, we also don't want it to be all centered around me, you know, as the face of the business. Now we have you and we have other experts, and we're really changing the positioning of how we're, you know, it's not just the Sari show. So, um, so as we talked about it, I love that we actually innovated and came up with an even better um way of doing this next, you know, launch and grow 2.0 or the next version of it. So, do you want to share a little bit about how you've restructured uh the program?

Stephanie

Yeah, I'm so excited by it. And I have to say, I mean, having you front and center for all this time has been amazing, and everything you built was so amazing. And I feel like now with an idea of growth, this is this is where growth, what growth looks like. Like, you know, so thinking in terms of your own package, good too, like you get to a place and then it's time for growth. So what's gonna change? And so what we're doing is one of the things I I love is is you had brought in some industry experts at portions of Launch and Grow. And so for this new iteration, we've brought in experts throughout the program. So we're really interweaving them in, and it allows for the founders in the program to get um uh familiar with experts who are doing certain things that they might need, and then and then they've got access to that person or that expert to be able to create even more support and foundation. So we've expanded the curriculum for launch and grow. We have we've split it into three modules, really. So we've got our executive module, which really gets into what you need to do and think about as an executive, as a leader, as thinking like a CEO or thinking like a boss. And then we've got our product section. What do you really need to understand about product? I mean, everything, product development, safety, production, everything in there. And then, of course, sales and marketing. Now that we now that we're thinking like a boss, we've got our product, we're making it safely, how are we gonna sell it? How are we gonna make money? What does that look like? And what is the roadmap and the strategic plan that we can create to be successful at every turn? So, what are the we go into what the pitfalls are of a lot of brands so that we can avoid them, so that our founders can walk their path with confidence and know where they're going, how they're gonna get there, and who to call if they're not sure. And I feel like it really is an amazing new program, but it also couldn't be what it is if we didn't have the amazing program that it it sprung forth from. And there are pieces that we've pulled from the original program as well that are still in there because it's still such a great program. And uh so I'm I'm super excited for for launch and grow. And and in general, we're looking at additional growth for food business, uh, food business success. We've got more fun stuff coming, we'll talk about later. Just our little teaser is the very much question mark of well, what comes next if I've grown my business to that two, 300,000 at launch and grow. So just as a teaser or hint, that's uh coming up at probably towards the end of the year.

Sari

And I want to give a shout out um to April as well, who is still on our team. And I think the three of us, and I love that it's women run and uh we're running this, you know, like bosses. But um, one of the beauties of the three of us is like I tend to be a little um, I'm not maybe not as organized. If anybody's been around me, they know like I have my own organization, but to others, they're like, what is going on here? So April is like really supporting us through the update of the program and creating consistency and the step-by-step and the you know, the fluid fluidity of the program. And so I want to give a shout out to April for her support as well, because um, you know, Stephanie's really heading up the direction and getting all the experts. It's kind of like a masterclass, a little bit, right? And I love that the modules are much shorter. You don't have to listen to me for an hour to try to glean the thing that you needed, right? So the shorter modules, easier to understand, there's a lot of consistency. You created a great vision. I helped support it with some recordings. You brought in all your experts. So it's um really, you know, something to be really proud of. So thank you for your work on that. And I know when this episode comes out, it will be of, I think, available in the world. So yeah, very exciting. Yeah, I love the way we put it all together and it'll be live when this podcast comes out. And so if you want to get the details and you want to get some some good juicy stuff and get on our email list or learn about the program, just go to foodbizsuccess.com and there'll be a place right there on the home page for you to to start learning about and getting to know us. And if you're feeling like, yeah, this is the time, I really do want some support. You know, I want to just not be like throwing spaghetti at the wall or trying to figure all this out on my own. It's the new program is just fabulous. So I'm very excited about that.

Stephanie

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me too. It's gonna be it's a great program. It's uh I hope, I hope everyone will come and check it out.

Sari

Yeah. And we are keeping fuel, um, which is our membership. And so if you uh join us, if you get launch and grow, you'll get access to fuel for a period of time. Um, and that's our amazing membership. I'm still coaching. The beauty of this is like my zone of genius is coaching, teaching, right? And I basically said to Stephanie, like, that's what I want to do. And she's like, Great, I'll do everything else. I'm like, amazing. So Stephanie's taking over all the operations, all of the marketing. I'll still be, you know, she's directing me now, which is great.

Stephanie

And uh although we're very much in partnership, very much because I come to Sari and I'm like, hey, I'm thinking this. What do you think? And and very much uh in partnership with with everything. But but yeah, the goal, yes, but the goal was, and it it excited me to be able to say, okay, you want to, if that's all you want to do, what do I need to do so you can do that? Because I yeah I like all the back end stuff.

Sari

Yeah. So April's still coaching as well, and then uh Stephanie's also uh you're doing, we're actually adding an office hours, which is a really cool thing. We've never had that before. So that'll be with Stephanie. And then you're also doing the VIP call. So we're bringing in experts, and so fuel's just like like the members who've been in there get all the great benefits of that, and then new people that come get to experience the expanded fuel membership, which is really, I think, you know, you can get, I've certainly have purchased a lot of online courses. I'm a learner, I love doing that. Um, but there's something like when you're really truly serious about making this happen is like being in community, being able to ask your questions in real time, not have to go hunt for it in a video, or like um, you know, things come up that you're like, where does this even fit? How do I do this? Right. And having people available to respond to you very quickly. And uh I'm so excited. Like I'm uh heading to fancy food and I get to meet um a bunch of members in person there. And uh, we have a number of people who are exhibiting for the first time, and it's just so fun. I just absolutely love our members and fuel, and I'm I'm something that I'm just like so proud of that piece of the project.

Stephanie

I really think that is one of the most important pieces is is the community that you get that support. I think of it as starting a company, you need three really solid things uh beyond your idea, right? So you need your idea, but you need that education. Uh so whether you have it, whether you need to gain it, in our case, of course, join launch and grow and get the education. You need some level of coaching or expertise, some kind of, as Waven would like to say, another shout out to Waven who connected us, a Sherpa, right? Someone who can help you navigate that path and how you're gonna get there. And then I think you really need community of founders. You need to be able to connect with people who are on the same path as you, and you can actually see when sometimes you feel like, oh my gosh, I can't believe this is taking so long. And then you talk to other people and go, oh, well, it's not taking that long. That's how long it takes, right? Or I don't really understand how this works. And you go on, and we have we have our channel think, you know, like a Slack channel, but very contained with with our founders, and you say, Hey, I don't understand this. And and all these people come in and go, Oh, well, here's how we dealt with it, here's how we dealt with it. And obviously, April and Sari and myself also come in and say, Have you thought about this and have you looked at that as well? And being able to build that, that is that's the difference between really being able to get where you want with your brand and taking it seriously and just hoping, I think of it like typing hunting and pecking versus just typing it out, right? Um, although I I get amazed with how well my son can use his thumbs on his on his phone.

Sari

And taking your business seriously, but also having more fun, right? It's like, what are we doing here if we're not having some fun? And so that's a big part of my ethos. And you know, it's about heart, it's about having fun and meant to be a very safe and welcoming space. So well, we could go on and on, but I, you know, this is our first episode back after six months after I officially ended the podcast, but we always reserve the right to come back. So I am officially handing you the baton, and you are going to be heading up the podcast. I'm sure I'll be back on future episodes, but Stephanie is really taking on the leadership of the next phase, the next evolution of food business success. And I could not be happier.

Stephanie

I'm so excited and thank you for that. And yes, I want everyone to know Sari is never far away. And uh food business success could not be what it is or continue to grow without Sari's participation. And so she's always here, whether you you see her or not. She's trust me, she's here right next to me all the time.

Sari

So I may be in a completely different country, but I don't know. I'm here. You never know where I'll be in the world. But well, I'm excited.

Stephanie

We're gonna have, we're gonna continue with what Sari built with this podcast. It's going to continue to be practical advice, it's gonna continue to have amazing experts and great stories and really usable, reusable information that uh founders can take away quickly and hopefully enjoy uh in the process. Because it uh like you said, if you're not having fun, what's the point? And um, and I hope to see everybody here on the next episode.

Speaker

Amazing. Thank you, Stephanie. All right, thanks, Sari. Take care. All right, I'm gonna do my sign off for the last time. Until next time, have an amazing week. The smartest thing you can do as an entrepreneur is to invest in a who to help you with the how to speed up your journey and help you skip the line. When you are ready for more support and accountability to finally get this thing done, you can work with me in two ways. Get me all to yourself with one-on-one business coaching, or join Food Business Success, which includes membership inside Fuel, our community of food business founders that includes monthly live group coaching calls and so much more. It's one of my favorite places to hang out, and I would love to see you there. Go to Foodbus Success.com to start your journey towards your own food business success.